tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4926759868384604174.post9185884737332146637..comments2024-02-26T10:52:14.585-08:00Comments on Glimpses of South Pasadena: Sign OffLaurie Alleehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14460272282273523408noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4926759868384604174.post-66606655513528253512012-06-29T20:16:45.082-07:002012-06-29T20:16:45.082-07:00Hi, any updates? We passed the theater the other d...Hi, any updates? We passed the theater the other day and were worried.beckynothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13865111299997729640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4926759868384604174.post-74177541272846687232012-03-09T11:31:10.834-08:002012-03-09T11:31:10.834-08:00Thank you, everyone. More as this develops.Thank you, everyone. More as this develops.Laurie Alleehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14460272282273523408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4926759868384604174.post-36544935107872378182012-03-08T22:51:27.034-08:002012-03-08T22:51:27.034-08:00Amen, Laurie! Keep this going!Amen, Laurie! Keep this going!Stefanie Eskanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10617748439244008688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4926759868384604174.post-46661565942930200132012-03-08T18:07:20.634-08:002012-03-08T18:07:20.634-08:00Why would Landmark (Mark Cuban) continue to lease ...Why would Landmark (Mark Cuban) continue to lease a theater that he has no power over? It's unsafe and the landlord is a group of 19 people who are unwilling to do squat.<br /><br />Are they waiting it out so that the structure is beyond repair and they can then demolish it and sell the land?<br /><br />Maybe the Rialto could use the powers of HSH Prince Zargarov from the Sovereign Principality of Zargaristan. I'm actually serious - he's the subject of my blog. He lives in Houston and seems to have his thumb on the pulse of Houston culture. He might know Mark CubanPasadena Adjacenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09031325790590238246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4926759868384604174.post-38305689786996199002012-03-08T16:57:40.828-08:002012-03-08T16:57:40.828-08:00Oh you didn't. LEt's see here:
I have see...Oh you didn't. LEt's see here:<br /><br />I have seen your lovely RIalto when I had the privilege of walking the streets of So Pas with you. Here in B'ham, the powers that be tore down our historic railroad terminal decades ago. Luckily for us, there were many here that took our very grand old Alabama Theatre and lovingly restored her. I hope the same for your RIalto.<br />xx<br />VVirginiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01152464973355194995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4926759868384604174.post-79932272023532467102012-03-08T16:54:47.352-08:002012-03-08T16:54:47.352-08:00Did you get my comment? I swear, now we never know...Did you get my comment? I swear, now we never know with the "WORDS"~!<br />VVirginiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01152464973355194995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4926759868384604174.post-3442448508018646142012-03-08T14:47:59.761-08:002012-03-08T14:47:59.761-08:00WOW.WOW.Shannahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01608168607510299123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4926759868384604174.post-48018855516867004052012-03-08T13:50:01.600-08:002012-03-08T13:50:01.600-08:00Laurie, you make more sense than any of the talkin...Laurie, you make more sense than any of the talking heads in this town. What is to be gained from continuing to allow those responsible to destroy a piece of history by neglect? I am disgusted by what most city people say about it and by Landmarks disappearance over the years. Do not get me started on why the owners are so invisible in this debate. Are they comotose??? It's as if we citizens are just supposed to accept that things are being done or planned or whatever when obviously it is a lot of malarkey. <br /><br />Well done and straight talking. Good for you.Who cares what I think?noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4926759868384604174.post-57529547753833851032012-03-08T09:11:41.456-08:002012-03-08T09:11:41.456-08:00Thanks, Escott! You know, I'm your biggest fa...Thanks, Escott! You know, I'm your biggest fan. <br /><br />I agree with not vilifying anyone, but as a parent I know that sometimes you've gotta call out bad behavior and insist upon personal responsibility. Not to mention the classic line I tell my daughter: if it's your mess, please clean it up.Laurie Alleehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14460272282273523408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4926759868384604174.post-43458881814637642042012-03-08T08:58:35.346-08:002012-03-08T08:58:35.346-08:00Another Great Rialto post, Laurie! And thanks for ...Another Great Rialto post, Laurie! And thanks for the shout out to Friends of the Rialto! Still too many rumors and incomplete info in these comments. Since the actual Lease is not public record, I can't confirm, but I have been told that the leaseholder IS responsible for maintenance, and since they are working with the city on the sign I think that confirms it. The Mayan in Denver is wonderful, I have visited it. I consulted on the Rialto with the CEO of Landmark in the 1980s when their business model involved restoring old theaters and playing revival movies. They had plans for reviving the Rialto that were squashed by a local lawsuit, even though the city had approved it. Then the economy crashed. The old Landmark business model seems to have changed when the company sold and the CEO that I worked with left. Now they are building fine new theaters and maintaining their profitable older theaters. I have been researching historic theaters for years, and working hard for the last 6 months to develop a viable business plan. There are successful historic theaters open now in this economy, that were in worse shape that the Rialto. Community support is vital, and we do have support of the city. They are not "sitting on their hands". The city is also NOT in the business of theater operation, and can't take on the liability of a project like this. Believe me, 30 years ago when I started, the city was not at all supportive. This is a different city now, where preservation is valued. I don't want to vilify the city, Landmark or the Trust the owns the Rialto, we will ALL need to work together to make revitalization happen. The sign coming down might just be the rallying point that is needed, and your fine writing is a great help!Escott Nortonhttp://www.facebook.com/FriendsoftheRialtonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4926759868384604174.post-70802858267020546382012-03-08T08:27:35.938-08:002012-03-08T08:27:35.938-08:00Brava Laurie! A wonderful piece about saving a lan...Brava Laurie! A wonderful piece about saving a landmark property that *could* be something incredible, if just a skosh of effort were put into it.<br /><br />If Cuban has a hand in this, I would presume he would want it done RIGHT, not half-assed. Not having some crumbling piece of history be associated with his name, his legacy.<br /><br />He has done a lot with the team he has owned, imagine what he could do with SoPas? (Laurie, if you break bread with him, the bulb-outs should be on the agenda too?!?).<br /><br />Go Laurie! Go Laurie! Go Laurie!Trishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12388261083998643091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4926759868384604174.post-13143144811071133152012-03-08T08:14:33.521-08:002012-03-08T08:14:33.521-08:00Damn, this is good. LA Times should run it. Do all...Damn, this is good. LA Times should run it. Do all those rich celebrities with deep pockets know what's going on?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4926759868384604174.post-1991133782094098642012-03-08T07:46:30.483-08:002012-03-08T07:46:30.483-08:00Here's Cuban's bio:
http://en.wikipedia.or...Here's Cuban's bio:<br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Cuban<br /><br />Surely we all know someone who knows someone...Petrea Burchardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13043950465171821852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4926759868384604174.post-64788856187791934302012-03-08T07:44:25.399-08:002012-03-08T07:44:25.399-08:00"...we just don't have the legal right......"...we just don't have the legal right..." seems to be the crux. Does Cuban? Or could he? <br /><br />I like the Laurie takes Mr. Cuban to lunch idea. Let's all pitch in so she can take him someplace really swank. As for his number: six degrees, baby, somebody out there's got it.Petrea Burchardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13043950465171821852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4926759868384604174.post-89717238680764834542012-03-08T07:24:15.361-08:002012-03-08T07:24:15.361-08:00Wow, gang. I wouldn't have expected anyone to ...Wow, gang. I wouldn't have expected anyone to have read this yet.<br /><br />Yes, this is complicated. But when I sign a business lease, I have obligations not to let the property fall down in a heap. Seems logical to start with Landmark, who operated the Rialto until a few years ago, now owned by super-cool Cuban who is a damned savvy businessman, loves entertainment enough to appear on Entourage and has enough money to start his own film studio. <br /><br />As far as I know, Mr. Cuban has been approached but I do not know to what extent. I'm happy to take him to lunch, anyone have his number? :-)Laurie Alleehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14460272282273523408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4926759868384604174.post-61506610564176210942012-03-08T07:14:10.339-08:002012-03-08T07:14:10.339-08:00This is exactly the kind of insightful passionate ...This is exactly the kind of insightful passionate yet respectful rallying for the cause. Excellent. You need to be the Save Rialto spokesperson, Laurie. <br /><br />Johnny BlackJBnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4926759868384604174.post-20799102640771545342012-03-08T07:11:03.233-08:002012-03-08T07:11:03.233-08:00Another vote for Laurie talking to Cuban!Another vote for Laurie talking to Cuban!Michellenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4926759868384604174.post-67211944885911869382012-03-08T06:46:18.900-08:002012-03-08T06:46:18.900-08:00Laurie wrote a detailed analysis of the lease/owne...Laurie wrote a detailed analysis of the lease/ownership situation at Patch. It's also available in the Vision Rialto report. I've always said we must start with Landmark. They're on the lease for quite a few more years.<br /><br />Great post.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4926759868384604174.post-13839859632624742392012-03-08T06:39:53.122-08:002012-03-08T06:39:53.122-08:00Exactly, Laurie needs to talk to Mark.Exactly, Laurie needs to talk to Mark.Mister Earlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18405041951237611622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4926759868384604174.post-1300091130536454882012-03-08T06:37:38.897-08:002012-03-08T06:37:38.897-08:00Lessees invest in property all the time. I believ...Lessees invest in property all the time. I believe Landmark does not actually own the Mayan, either. Clearly the owners here don't care if the place disintegrates and Landmark leased it for years before dropping the ball and walking away.<br /><br />This is great, Laurie. I love all of your Rialto research at Patch. You should talk to Mark Cuban yourself! How could he resist you?Green Guynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4926759868384604174.post-21617081874499856302012-03-08T06:12:53.575-08:002012-03-08T06:12:53.575-08:00Although he may have no power to do anything becau...Although he may have no power to do anything because he's only the tenant, Mark Cuban apparently owns Landmark. Why not make an effort to actually talk to him? He's an unconventional guy with gobs of money. Has anyone actually tried to do this? What efforts have been made to reach out to him?Mister Earlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18405041951237611622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4926759868384604174.post-87423477835092635322012-03-08T06:05:13.335-08:002012-03-08T06:05:13.335-08:00Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Landmark ...Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Landmark does not own the theater. Landmark only has a lease. The problem, the reason for the inaction, is the trust that owns it. Apparently, it consists of something like 19 people who've never been able to agree to sell it. The solution to the problem lies somewhere in someone with enough money to buy and restore it, with some sort of plan to make it viable - if that's even possible - and somehow getting the owner to sell. This has been discussed and discussed. Why nothing has actually been done I don't know. Have we been beating the bushes to find someone with the dollars and the will to restore it?Mister Earlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18405041951237611622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4926759868384604174.post-67220773521353228212012-03-08T05:16:54.838-08:002012-03-08T05:16:54.838-08:00Great post. This makes me sad. :(Great post. This makes me sad. :(Judy Williamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05081035351814381283noreply@blogger.com